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savvy_nat
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Re:Women's Premier League? - 2008/09/23 10:37 So - what’s the big deal then? On the register - are there any beginners registered? No… So what is being pushed here? For those who are experienced to play? These girls are registered…
So when you say - why should you be bothered to play - what are you asking for? To take the beginners off the list?? There aren’t any.
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sarah_mck
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Re:Women's Premier League? - 2008/09/23 10:53 I have expressed my view.

I think only women who have both experience and are going to bother playing competitively and provide challenge to others by playing hard all the time should bother registering. That is what makes a league compeitive.
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gillian
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Re:Women's Premier League? - 2008/09/23 11:58 I think any woman who wants to play twice a week is going to do so in a competitive nature. If you only want a social game, as in SUL, you are not going to sign up for this league. Just the name alone "Premiere" will deture any women who are not serious about ultimate, as can be seen on the list of those who have registered. I think if a SUL woman is confident enough in her fitness/skills and wants to learn more and play more, then we let her join. These cases will be few and far between...especially for anyone who is reading this thead...as I'm sure we've just about scared the living s#it out of them!

To back up my previous comment about us being "too big for our britches"...and britches are pants for anyone who doesn't know ...I have practiced for the last two nationals seasons with Primal and there isn't one woman on that team who gave 110% in each and every practice. When we tried to have the last womans league it was taken VERY lightly by a lot of women, a lot of whom didn't even show up half the time.

I agree with Mac, I want women's ultimate to be more competitive and to provide a challenge...but I think it has less to do with having a few SUL girls registered and has WAY more to do with the intermediate/expert players stepping up and leading by example. If we continue to run women's practices (and now the league) the way they have been in the past...with poor attendance, people rocking up late, joking around during games/drills, lackluster warm ups...then the level of play will suffer. I think we have all experienced this...so I stand by my other comments as well about how this level of play can be maintained if each player takes ownership of their OWN game and intensity.

I think there are enough intermediate/expert players to keep the intensity up during women's games. If training/games from last year are any indication, this might not happen. Again I think the owness is on each player to riser to the occasion...correct me if I'm wrong...but as as of yet, I haven't seen this happening in WA womens ultimate.
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Bnanna
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Re:Women's Premier League? - 2008/09/23 12:25 I think we are all really starting to say the same sort of things now so YAY for discussions.
I don't think we are saying this is a recruitment drive - far from it.
But I think it is up the individual players to take ownership on whether they should play right?
Women who sign up for this are not doing so to "try the sport out" they are doing it to lift the level.
It is the senior players responsibility to continue that level (and increase it) at every single game. Girls will either match it or work hard to do so or perhaps realise that this particular league is not for them. With full disclosure it is the players right to choose to play not our right to be selective as to who is included.
Are we all trying to recruit players for this league? Let's all ask 3 girls not on our own PUL teams or already registered to get on board yeah?
This is great discussion ladies! I'm psyched for the upcoming league so we can bring this enthusiasm to the pitch.
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deb_ng
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Re:Women's Premier League? - 2008/09/23 13:12 I love this forum, so much fun that we are actually putting in the effort to discuss this (and I'm NOT being sarcastic!).

We all essentially agree to the same thing - We want competitive Women's Ultimate in WA.

Simple. As pointed out before, there is currently no issue with turning away SUL/beginner players as none are registered.

As Gill rightly points out that any beginner player who is confident enough and is willing to commit an extra night to Ultimate, they should be welcomed - this kind of commitment is hard to find and it demonstrates that they are passionate about women's Ultimate and I believe would play just as hard/competitively/intense as more experienced players. Skill you can learn and develop, but not attitude and passion. Therefore, SHOULD it be required to assess "beginners", a selection process should occur to allow a limited amount of "beginners" to join if they are deemed 'ready' for the challenge. But no point going in circles until this is required.

On a different topic - trainings (probably should be in a different thread...)

I whole-heartedly agree with Gill on players taking ownership of their game. This involves commitment to attendance and punctuality, concentration, self-belief, determination and sacrifice. I did find it very hard to prepare for the worlds training camps but it was up to ME to lift MY intensity. Luckily I'm engaged to a very intense Ultimate player and we had our own trainings - some would end in tears!

I am competitive to no end, I'd sell my grandmother to win a game. When I decide I will train for Nationals, I expect myself to give up luxuries like Sunday sleep-ins. So when I see girls not turn up to training because they're hung over (or play like crap because of it) or they have a movie to see, it frustrates me to boiling point - where are you priorities??? You let yourself down and more importantly you let your team down. I don't want to know if you had a bad day, if you can't leave your baggage on the sidelines then please have a moment away to pull yourself together then return to play with a clear head. Excuses lead to failure.

Once cleats are on, nothing else besides Ultimate matters. I define "having fun" as catching every disc, connecting my throws, not being broken, out-cutting my defence, seeing myself and teammates improve, watching a teammate take a great grab - this may or may not result in a win, but at least I know (and hopefully my teammates could see) I played my best. Chatting, catching up, mucking around - I can do that BEFORE and AFTER training, not during. As everyone's definition of "having fun" is different, players should assess which league/tournament/team suit their idea of fun.
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sarah_mck
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Re:Women's Premier League? - 2008/09/23 14:29 Finally sounds like a lot of us are on a simlilar page!
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